GitHub Has a Microsoft Problem. Is It Time to Look Elsewhere?
Breaking: Water is wet. Read the in-depth analysis on why you should have gotten a boat years ago and why you should still get one now!
But wait, there’s more: a gigantic colony of Microtards that don’t understand why the water is wet, and they don’t care!
More news at 11.
Federated git forges can’t come fast enough. Fuck gitlab for so willingly dropping the ball
Self-hosted Forgejo works well for my own use. My employer is moving to GitHub Enterprise where it’s a separate instance per company with certain infra shared. Should be a slight improvement, I guess, though probably not a bad idea to make sure internal tooling is built with the git forge being configurable. 😉
I’ve been eyeing Gitea. Do you have any reason for using Forgejo that I might overlook Gitea in favor of it?
I used to run Gitea and switched to Forgejo mainly because I prefer a community project over one run by a for-profit company. I never had any substantive complaints against Gitea during my time with it to be honest, but thought I’d get off of it before investing too much further in case it went in a bad direction.
That is a solid enough reason and one I wasn’t aware of. Exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to find out, thank you!
The transition of gitea to chasing profits was pretty messy too iirc and motivated the forgejo fork. Gitea lost a lot of good-will back then. Forgejo is also the base that codeberg runs on now.
Yeah it was completely useless today.
Radicle https://radicle.dev/
I’ve used. It works well enough. They supposedly have CI but either it’s not documented or nor ready, I can’t tell.
And there’s no way to get notifications of merge requests, comments or anything actually, so it serves well as a backup or private project host, but not much else, IMO.
I think it might just be that their documentation is dispersed, and sometimes hard to find. I haven’t used the CI, so I can’t comment on how well it works, but it appears to be in use: https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2026/radicle-status-quo-07/
Here’s some docs on it: https://radicle-ci-broker.liw.fi/userguide.html https://radicle.network/nodes/radicle.liw.fi/rad%3AzwTxygwuz5LDGBq255RA2CbNGrz8
Thanks for the links. Documentation is definitely a problem. They’d have to be open to feedback on documentation. Threads on documentation improvement are often met with “it exists, what more do you want?” even if the feedback is “this and this is missing” 🤷
Anyway, I’ll check out the links and try to set something up. My usage of radicle is definitely what it could be because of the lack of notifications. I literally fire and forget my repos, patches and so on, because I haven’t found an easy way to be made aware of responses or incoming patches.
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I mean yes, Microsoft and slopcode probably plays a role, but it only got really bad once the LLM mass scraping started, for which I assume Github is also a major target.
And running your own public git forge is a real PITA these days for similar reasons.
Any alternatives with a good UI? Really don’t like the ones for codeberg or gitlab tbh, and GitHub is bearable
Honestly, for me the Forgejo/Codeberg UI is the best out there, I actually like it even better than GitHub. I think you just need to get used to it. If you had been using Codeberg the last 10 years and just discovered GitHub today, you’d take one look at it and say the UI is bad.
Maybe yeah
Moved to codeberg.org when that Microslop VP took over running github. I have nothing on the platform but my account so I can look at other stuff on the site.
We need decentralized forge such as radicle.dev to become more mainstream and people seeding tons of repo!
Already migrated to gitea
Am I the only one that needs to press F5 to get github to load after entering github.com in the browser? It only happen with github.
I filled out an IT helpdesk request last week because I couldn’t push any updates to GitHub. I was able to access the site, so I though my access token was retired since that happens every once in awhile.
Nope. It was GitHub. For some reason it couldn’t accept my push despite the website still being up. And I didn’t find out until the tech called the the next day and it worked when I tried to recreate it in front of them
Is your code free for others to do whatever the fuck they want to with it? : codeberg
Do you want to put certain restrictions (eg financial)? Gitlab
Codeberg doesn’t allow you to use AI with your repos. Even if it is just writing your docs for you.
Radicle is decentralised though!
Unicorn error!
But the big issue for me is the authwalls. I’ll migrate when we have a good replacement on the fediverse, when PRs and issue comments can be made from different instances
You might be interested in Tangled. Not sure if they’re stable yet though
Looks cool, but how do I browse existing repos?
Huh… I’m not really sure. I know I was able to a while back, but now I don’t see how.
Maybe it requires login now. I guess I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a way to reduce AI traffic or something.
Kinda makes it seem like vaporware.
Anyway, I put my code online because I want it to be found. This kinda defeats the whole idea
There was a surprising number of repos there when I last looked, and their blog seems to show signs of life, so I don’t think it’s vaporware (at least not yet). But yeah, not easily being able to browse repos from the home page definitely sucks.
FWIW, you can see some recent activity scroll by from right to left on the front page, near the top, right below the hero section. You can click them to view some users and repos (example: https://tangled.org/mitchellh.com).
That’s the only way I see from the front page though, which is not great :/
