The title seems to be generating confusion, but the author’s point is that there are billionaire oligarchs (not just Trump, people whose power is not term-limited) pushing to gain control of Canada’s resources. He’s not talking about ordinary Americans nor is he necessarily talking about an invasion or a war.
The playbook here is generally to apply economic pressure with the aim of causing political discontent, while at the same time financing an opposition faction that’s more pliable, like they’re doing against Cuba, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
Sounds like the same play book that is used with great success in Europe currently.
And i am very serious about killing any doodle who sets foot in this country with that intent.
I don’t care if i die.
I am not living undet the rule of people who worship curtis yarvin.
MAGA dipshits severely underestimate how many Canadians would actually enjoy taking a break from the rat race to repel invaders.
Asymmetrical warfare is our thing
I don’t think you can say that if you’ve never been invaded/occupied by a superior army.
Maybe come over to vietnam and go to some museums or talk to some people if you want to know what asym warfare is like.
Yes, Canadians have no idea what it’s like. We’ve seen even less ugliness than Americans, and when this whole thing started, we had to go to hockey for martial metaphors.
Living in a warzone is a learning curve you can go up fast, though, because you have no choice.
I know someone who served in the Canadian Armed Forces and did a tour diffusing IEDs in Afghanistan. I’m pretty sure he knows how to build one if it came to that.
Americans don’t recognize that Canadians actually did go to Afghanistan. It’s not just Hockey metaphors, people in Canada actually do know the tactics the US military has a difficult time dealing with. That’s because our soldiers had to deal with those same tactics when fighting alongside Americans for two fucking decades. If the US decides to betray Canada they will soon be reminded that Canadians were in Afghanistan and what was learned there.
Yeah, combat vets, relief workers and refugees are not included. Even just being from a family with those backgrounds teaches you a bit about how the world really works, when push comes to shove, speaking from experience.
The average Canadian on the street lacks the experience to understand, though. Even more than that, there’s been a kind of resistance to understanding it, because it’s easier and cleaner not to.
If OP thinks guerilla warfare is a vacation, they probably don’t know what they don’t know.
It’s also worth noting that Canada has a land border with the USA. They can also pass as generic American, if required.
Asymmetric warfare wouldn’t only be focused in Canada. E.g. a coordinated set of drone strikes could basically shatter large portions of the American power grid. There are too many soft, unmanned targets to viably protect, and the lead time of spares is measured in months to years, on some parts.
Heck a large portion of the American power grid is in Canada since we sell them so much.
I really need to figure out a way to practice American-style vowels.
Do you not remember covid? Your treatlerites rioted in Montréal and tried to do a J6 over the most tepid restrictions. The ones jerking off over a romantic idea of fighting a war aren’t prepared to spend years living without the lifestyle they’re accustomed to and have themselves and their families randomly imprisoned or murdered by the evil empire they’ve served so faithfully. You’d be closer to the conditions of the IRA than Vietnam or Iran, except even they had a history of genocides to radicalize people.
FYI, I’m not Canadian. Just an observer from the other side of the pond, watching America die in morbid horror.
Are you joking? Most of you couldn’t even fucking handle staying inside and not going to parties when you wanted to. Stop acting like Canadians are hard.
TBF OP was just speaking for themselves.
Plenty of Americans are hoping a dumb ass move like that is enough to weaken the morons in charge and join your side.
Like both coasts and most of the bordering states would have majorities on Canada’s side.
doodle
As an American I like this epithet very much and will be sabotaging supply lines to keep the True North strong and free.
If I go into Canada, it will be to fight on your side
As an American I’d love to help ya, so send others here or grab me I hate the orange nazi
Same, TBH. I don’t have a whole lot to lose, and I’m pretty serious about democracy and human rights.
Well you better call it a whoopsie doodle or I’m gonna cry. Do you really want making me cry on your conscience after that?
It’s one American in particular pushing it, so it’s a bit funny to use plural, but yes, he means it.
And 1/3 follow without reservation.
And another 1/3 don’t care what happens.
As is tradition.
This isn’t even like an objective of the whole MAGA movement, though. Maybe they’ll manage to drum up more support over time, but right now, it’s the fuhrer’s vanity project. So, that doesn’t really count as “being serious about it”, for the rest of them.
The president represents the country.
Yeah, there is that legal fiction, and typical way of looking at things, so it’s not an incorrect phrasing. It’s just kinda funny.
Nah he represents it
400 million people is 400 million distinct people. Nobody could or does represent them; the idea that someone can represent “the will of the people” is propaganda. Same with every other government; they actually just have control.
A leader that is elected by their country, represents it. It’s a collective responsibility.
In Trumps case, he truly represents it, in every way. Selfish, debaucherous, arrogant, can’t take criticism.
A leader that is elected by their country, represents it.
Well, that’s basically the propaganda. Says who? God? Physics? Neither. And, elect how? Some countries have proportional representation, which neither the US or Canada do.
At the end of the day, a state is anything that has a monopoly on the use of force. Some allocate political power within themselves through elections (of many massively different kinds), while some do it other ways.
You could say, “okay, elections have nothing to do with it, but we’re still responsible for what we let our governments do”, which covers the “it’s a collective responsibility” bit. And there’s a strong argument for that. But, by that measure pretty much everyone sucks everywhere, which you can take however you want.
Says who
Well in that country, Republicans voters definitely because they turn out to vote religiously. We know they’re represented.
I guess this presidents apathy and selfishness represents those who don’t vote for whatever reason, so he represents them as well.
For those that did and are looking for excuses, this president gives a lot of those too, so I guess he represents them?
That’d cover it wouldn’t it?
You could say, elections have nothing to do with it
Well if I go by the evidence demonstrated repeatedly by the Republican vote, which is evidence demonstrated by Americans, I have to disagree.
pretty much everyone sucks everywhere
Well, no, but we are responsible for our governments. As an Aussie I’m ashamed of my weak government and I will act however I can next election, but I note that the voting strategy, which was to vote in progressive senators that block bad policy and pass good I and many others took has been reasonably effective here.
I’m American (unfortunately) and I want no part in annexing any country. I actually can’t recall anyone else here who does… Well except big orange wrinkly pimples in DC.
Point of order, I would like to annex a small slice of quiche and a latte
Where do I sign up for this special military operation?
oh damn you just missed it. maybe next saturday at the good german place that makes the best damn quiche i’ve ever had.
this saturday i’m gonna be in stockton eating greek food
Damn that special military operation was fast AF.
maybe because unlike some dictators we know how to plan our special military operations
I’m in California, Canada - please annex us. We can draw up a map of the places you should leave behind. You know, the conservative ones.
The problem being we only have a slightly larger population, so it’d be pretty close to you annexing us. That’s not really the end of the world, TBH, but for many Canadians it would be a dealbreaker. Cutting off the rural bits would help, but not much since they’re rural (and, honestly, we could use some domestic produce growing, anyway).
It’s just one of the biggest states in one of the most populous countries.
Convince Oregon and Washington to come too, I want to be able to drive to my new vacation spot.
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It’s really just a few of us, but they control the media and military so that sucks.
Even if we came willingly, the Republicans wouldn’t really want another California.
Trump doesn’t seem to get that’s what it would be, though. Except also add a raging insurgency, which would most likely spread.
in the hypothetical case of an annexation there is no way Canada would get statehood. they would be just another puerto rico
Depends on the hypothetical, I guess. We’re already handwaving a lot of things.
Trump is rhetorically pretty specific about it being a new state.
In that hypothetical scenario, I would undoubted become a partisan on their side and do as much damage as possible to our own military.
Fuck em.
I could see it happening in bite sized pieces. Just like Ukraine really. Annex a small area, wait till the protests die down then repeat. I’m sure Vladimir would be cheering that on. After all great nuclear powers do whatever they want, don’t they.
Yeah the people in here who are imagining some kind of WW2-esque total-war scenario are not living in reality…
I mean, I get it. It’s heroic and satisfying to imagine oneself going down in a blaze of glory or getting into a firefight or a slugfest with a bunch of boots-on-the-ground foreign invaders, but that’s not the century we’re in.
You’re getting in the way of how horny the 50+ crowd is to kill some people before they kick the bucket
But I feel like they probably won’t invade if only because Canada isn’t mentioned in the Bible.
Yeah the US is struggled with IEDs in Afghanistan, we know that because Canadians were there. Now the US military is struggling against cheap drones.
It won’t be a WW2 like war. It would be oil shortages, electricity blackouts, food shortages, and Amazon fulfillment centers going up in flames. That’s what war looks like in Russia right now, it wouldn’t be all that difficult to inflict that on the US.
“…die down”? Have you see the French?
Yeah that’s the thing you have to remember about this flood the Zone shit Trump does. None of it’s a distraction. All of it’s a distraction. Both at the same time. He means it all.
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Also this war would be different. A bunch of English speaking Canadians (and English speaking supporters) bad mouthing the us on the news. Would look awful bad for them. They are only used to non English bad mouthing them during a war which is easier to suppress in the news.
I’m 51 and would murder every single American that entered here and tried to take away my country, freedom and my family.
I’d die, but I’d hopefully murder a fuckload of yanks before that.
Nah, they’re not. Orange Fatass just wants you to stop talking about his 30 year relationship with the guy who sold child sex slaves.
Of course, Canada should still be prepared against psyops and whatnot, but Trump will never invade a NATO country.
How can anyone take this article seriously after opening with this clear misinterpretation:
Prime Minister Mark Carney has stated he will return to the bargaining table “when the Americans start being serious.” How much more serious can the Americans be? The Americans have been very serious right from the beginning of Trump’s second term. Trump has constantly repeated 51ST state, governor of Canada statements and now Lake America.
I don’t know how you miss inference “…about a trade deal.” and it not be intentional.
We may not be understanding each other here…
I am complaining about the article because they imply Americans are taking things seriously while Carney is just throwing an empty excuse… “How much more serious can the Americans be?”
I do believe Carney is right in that we can sit down and talk trade when the brats down south stop throwing tantrums… the article seems to think that throwing threats and tantrums is equal to being serious about talking trade which is complete bullshit
Don’t confuse me with that thing that was ostensibly a government once. Please.
True. I am very serious about thinking my President is a fucking moron for wanting to annex Canada. And also for every single other aspect about him.
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