FishFace

Hey wait, don’t

Spoons are pretty safe

It must be so nice that you can dismiss reasoned argument about why I don’t believe they’re being honest with a plain assertion.

go make your own free git hub with crypto and LLM?

Why? It doesn’t interest me. Nothing that I’ve said suggests I would be.

I think your feelings are irrelevant to the admins’ and don’t change the fact that they aren’t being honest (with people, or quite possibly themselves)

k

Hmm, maybe the bits of my post that you didn’t quote contain the answer.

First though you need to understand I’m mainly saying I don’t buy their justification.

5 Zimbabwean dollars.

You’re right I wasn’t really thinking about the possibility of verbatim reproduction. I guess we’ll see about that.

Codeberg will need efficient procedures to handle IP trolls anyway, getting a bunch more takedown requests ought not to make a big difference. And if somehow it does start to be a problem… that would be the time to blanket ban or take similar drastic action. If it’s possible to detect now, it will be possible to detect then.

Politics will absolutely care about having a precedent which leaves big tech exposed. Any case against little fish will be jumped on by Zuck and Bezos before you can say “datacenter”.

There is simply no way that is true. First, the legal arguments are dodgy:

1. There is a good chance that LLMs are sufficiently transformative that courts will decide they don’t infringe the copyright of their sources.
2. Even if not, hosts will get DMCA-style safe harbour protection and the most they’ll be liable for is takedown requests, which is a major thing for any large host.

Second, there is no fucking way a western court is going to tell every big tech company they have to delete 99% of the code that was written since the start of the year, even if the law as written literally said verbatim, “use of any LLM output for any purpose is breach of copyright” because it doesn’t take a conspiracy theorist to realise that it’s politically impossible.

You may not like that, but it means that, again, Codeberg is doing this based on feels.