Researchers, industry leaders urge Ottawa to develop rules to protect consumers as Canada opens its market to Chinese EVs

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      9 days ago

      It is, all of them are collecting and selling all of our data. The article I read said every car company they investigated and it was a lot.

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          The only reason I say a screen is that cars with a screen always have GPS connectivity. So either you buy a base model early 2010s car without it, or you get something older. Because then, it you’re truly concerned about being tracked you can leave your phone at home. Plus, no Internet or satellite connectivity means it can’t be remotely shut down. Of course, you’d want to buy it cash so the dealership or finance company aren’t tracking you for repossession purposes.

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            Oh I got mine in a private sale, still carry phone with me. Think the GPS is only in my phone tho. Do wish I could get an electric without thw tracking though

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      China have a well established plan to perform cyber-espionage and foreign interference. They have no qualms about it

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            Fuck yes I can, and its pathetically naive to think they aren’t.

            Also linking to us gov website, may as well link to a trump video.

            To be clear I’m not saying the Chinese govt doesn’t do these things, I’m saying they are all doing it.

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                Corruption is a little distinct from survalence. I think its pretty ignorant to think that big countries dont have large survalence bodies. That is the crux of my point: this article says “oh no Chinese cars”, ignoring that we’ve left this door wide open.

                Meanwhile it seems like you want to claim the us is either not doing this or doing it to a lesser degree., and you use a us government website as your proof. Why would you think that’s convincing?

                Just like on reddit you can use swear words here. You dont need to play cool police with your 14 say old account

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      Right, it’s like they don’t think the Chinese have access to Google Maps where you can literally do street view and gain knowledge as well.

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      Sure, it’s kind of racist, but if it gets them to pass some laws on what data car manufacturers can collect, that’s still a win. And if they go extra racist and only restrict what data Chinese cars collect, then I just have more reason to buy a Chinese car.

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      9 days ago

      I’m looking forward to the open source upgrades to these vehicles. I’m sure someone will try to say it’s a safety issue to run your own code instead of the manufacturer’s.

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        Jail breaking these would be amazing. F their subscriptions for heated seats and more HP, I have all the options now!

        My guess is the BYDs would be the easiest considering how bad their security is atm. I know Tesla is a bunch of ass hats when it comes to self repair. They would lose their mind if they lost control of their cars.

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            Yup, they went after that guy that fixed his battery w/ less than 20 dollars in plumbing parts from damage hitting some simple road debris. The only option they gave him was a new batter for an ungodly amount of money.

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    Our government should look to Mexico and follow their lead and just produce its own vehicles instead of infinitely deferring to private and foreign interests and partnerships that inevitably lead to huge losses for the Canadian taxpayers. Why hand all that production and industriousness off to a foreign interest of any sort? Tax dollars and canadian materials could support the production and secure lives for Canadian workers, and all their downstream wage spending, and profits from vehicles stay in the country instead of going to some stock buybacks for a company that could actually jsut fuck off any old day they choose as we’ve been seeing as a result of US tarrifs.

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    The good news is that the police in Canada think that technology is magic, so if someone does hack your car they won’t do anything about it.

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    One fix for this is to have the data centers that do the data collection be located in your country and subject to your laws. China would love to cooperate on that front but it wouldn’t protect the profits of certain industries.

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      Another fix is to not allow cars to track and report data back to anyone.

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          No OTA updates then

          That’s fine with me.

          No other car I’ve owned in my 45 years of driving has had OTA updates, and it hasn’t inconvenienced me in the slightest.